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this. so we do the best we can. we did the best we could a trip like this. what might be more dangerous than the food, though, could be the way we were forced to sleep. that's going to wrap things up for the special edition of "sg md." stay connected with me at and keep the conversation going on at twitter. and it's time to get you back to the "cnn newsroom" with don lemon. welcome back, everyone, to our live news coverage, i'm don lemon, you're in the "cnn newsroom." congress working today, but if you heard my conversation with the two congressmen at the top of the last hour, we're going to be hearing a lot of talking points, but no solutions to end this shutdown. there are some developments, some federal workers being called back now, that's what we're hearing. and we're going to get to all of that just ahead. but, first, this --
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it really is a weather emergency today, and not just one. a tropical storm, a blizzard, tornadoes, and perfect conditions for a devastating wildfire all on the same day. this is the big rainmaker. it's spinning off the coast right now, the gulf coast, right now, tropical storm karen. just sitting there but everyone from louisiana to florida just waiting to see where it will actually come ashore. cnn's chad myers in the cnn severe weather center. first question to you, karen, going to be a hurricane? >> nope. what else you need to know? this storm was a dud. i was singing bruce springsteen to this song "my machine she's a dud, she's stuck in the mud somewhere in the swamps of jersey." this storm, the low, somewhere right around here, is nowhere near the convection is, where the center of convection is, and that's the problem. this storm never got its act together. never got all the way around. never got an eye. never got bigger, that's the
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great news. and then the storm will travel right like this and stay offshore most of the way. and 35-mile-per-hour storm in the gulf of mexico and it will kind of ruin your beach day, that's all it's going to do right now, don. >> can you talk about this, there is also snowfall in the country, so early, october 5th. >> unbelievable. there's 30 to 40 inches of snowfall in parts of wyoming into south dakota. we showed you pictures earlier, people digging out. it looked like buffalo when i lived there in the '70s and then the wind was 60 to 70 miles per hour at times. blizzard conditions, wyoming, into parts of the dakotas and also western nebraska. it was quite the day. and on the other side tornadoes into northeastern nebraska about a mile wide and also into parts of iowa last night. here's the snow, don, i know it's impossible to believe, but it's still coming down right now. and, i mean, we're talking about rapid city, the black hills, talking about devil's tower, mt. rushmore, just snow as far as you can see, and many spots as
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deep as you can see as well. there you see the pictures of the tornado damage yesterday, parts of nebraska, the town of wayne that was hit, sloan, iowa, just got missed by a very large tornado tomorrow. we'll keep you advised tonight, there could be more bad weather this evening. >> the bearer of bad news, chad mye myers. we want to get the latest on the tropical storm zone. john zarella is on the move right now. where are you? and is the weather turning ugly yet? >> reporter: oh, no, not at all, don. and we are actually in cnn's rolling coverage vehicle, so we'll be able to give you a look out the front and we're actually down here in an area just going into destin. we left ft. walton beach, we're into destin. over to my right side, you really can't see it now, are all the sand dunes which are really nature's natural barriers to storms. fortunately not going to have to deal with this, anything like that in this particular situation. but when we get around the corner here, you can see a lot
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of the sea grapes and different kind of vegetation here. again, a lot of the natural barriers to protect against storms, against storm surge. but, again, not going to be an issue in this case. when we come around the corner here, i'm going to jump out of the car in just a second. give you an idea what we're looking at. a lot of this is very, very low-lying, so you can get with high winds and rain a lot of coastal flooding. but that may not be an issue either with this storm. but let me get out and we'll give you a look down the beach. so, don, what we have here, and you can see down this way here, this is highway 98. this is the bridge over into destin. but all on both sides, very, very low-lying terrain and as chad can tell you, this area all the way east into panama city, into apalachicola, st. marks, areas with the convection of
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this storm way off to the east, they could see some rain. they could see some localized flooding, but it appears better and better with every passing hour that the effects are going to be very, very minimal. and, don, you can see it's been a glorious day out here. people on the beach. young boy playing in the sand. down the beach, people fishing, enjoying the day. i did talk to one couple earlier who said, they tried to go kayaking today, but the place was closed in preparation for the storm. they didn't get to do that. but i tell you, if that's the worst of the effects from this storm, we're all doing really, really well. don? >> that's how you do it. now, that's a walk and talk. thank you, john zarella. appreciate the tour there. >> reporter:u got it, sure. what's the exact opposite of a tropical storm? i want you to look at this picture. this is what people in western south dakota woke up to today, on october 5th. more than 30 inches of snow. other places nearby, had more than 40 inches of snow. the i-reporter who took these pictures is on the phone with me
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now. terry anderson joins me in sturgis, south dakota, so, te y terry, you are used to harsh winters in south dakota. in the plains. but this is crazy. when have you ever seen something like this, this early on in the season? >> you know, don, it's just pretty unusual for this early in the season. we usually get snowstorms in early october, but you might see a couple inches. and this was 30-plus inches. and i'd say it's going to be probably by tomorrow before we can get out and actually get out on the streets of sturgis here in western south dakota. >> so, how are you dealing with the snowfall so far? your family, i mean. i would imagine this is an emergency for your family. are you stocked up? are you hearing about any other families around the area being stuck? >> you know, it's -- we had a pretty good warning that this was coming. the weather stations around the area told us about four or five days in advance, this looked like a pretty major storm coming in. so, we were prepared for it. and my family, my wife and
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daughter are on the eastern side of the state right now doing a college visit. so, my youngest daughter and i are at home, but my wife and middle daughter almost got hit by a tornado yesterday on the eastern side of south dakota. >> goodness. >> so it's been kind of a crazy weather weekend for us here. >> i can only imagine. you mentioned the other side of south dakota. what about the sturgis area? what's that like? how are people coping? >> you know, we've got like i said, 30-plus inches of snow. i saw the plows out this afternoon. i can see blue skies coming from the west right now. so, the temperatures starting to warm up and things are going to melt pretty fast this week. people here are pretty tough, and they can deal with weather like this. it wasn't totally unexpected, but to get this much snow this early in the season, it's going to take us a couple days to dig out, but we'll be okay. >> oh, yeah, well, we hope so. because i would be unhappy to say the least.
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what are forecasters saying about when this is going to be over for you guys? >> you know, right now, actually, the storm system is just passing over us right now. there are blue skies toward the west. we're going to have mid-50s my monday and tuesday and wednesday, so it's going to melt off and be a huge mess. but we'll just have to deal with the slushy roads for a couple of days and then wait for the next storm to roll in. like they say here in south dakota, wait 15 minutes, the weather's going to change and we just deal with that year round here. >> yeah. we used to say five minutes in chicago. listen, we're proud to have you as an i-reporter. we're glad you're safe, and we wish your family well, as well as other families. everyone around the sturgis area. thank you. >> thanks, don. >> all righty. there appears to be no end in sight, not talking about the snow, i'm talking about this. government shutdown. in its fifth day. but news in the past few hours
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department to eliminate furloughs for civilian workers who contribute to the morale or the moral -- no, to the morale, that's right. well-being and the readiness of service members. the senate is in session now. earlier the house unanimously passed a
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with a full staff might be missed allowing a compromise to go deeper into an organization to get it more critical assets or critical data. >> reporter: another risk while staff that monitor commute computer networks are on the job, many staff that maintain them are not. meaning they are not being updated to reduce new cyberattacks. the cyberattacks are transforming from spying on computer networks to destroying them. the chairman of the house intelligence committee said it's a serious concern across the intelligence community. >> it's very concerning to me that we would allow any part of our national security structure knowing what's coming at us every day, not just from cyber, none of that's going away. and you can imagine that our adversaries are trying to fill the hole. >> reporter: we asked a cybersecurity firm advising the
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government if the number of cyberattacks had increased since the shutdown started. and the answer we got is telling. we're told they simply don't have the staff to count, that right now they're focused on defending against attacks with fewer resources to keep the government's computer systems safe. cnn, washington. >> thank you. what could have prompted the bizarre chain of events that led to the capitol police killing a driver who had attempted to ram the security gates at the white house? we're going to take a look at that next. also, an unprecedented number of u.s. troops are surviving serious wounds and returning home from fighting in iraq and afghanistan. this week's cnn hero has stepped in to help these wounded vets with housing, education, and job placement. meet michael conklin. >> the first trip to walter reed was one of my toughest trips when i saw the amount of wounded, it was shocking. >> both my legs are amputated
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the man who set himself on fire on washington's national mall yesterday has died. a man found the jogger engulfed
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in flame near the air and space museum. bystanders used their shirts to put out the flames. a gas can was found near him. had is very disturbing. investigators will have to use dna and dental records to determine the man's identity. how sad. just days earlier in d.c., a driver has a confrontation at the white house and speeds away towards capitol hill. police pursue and in a chaos that follows they shoot and kill the woman behind the wheel, miriam carey but who was she and what could have prompted this chain of events? here's cnn's deborah feyerick. >> reporter: something was bothering miriam carey something having to do with president obama, sources say her boyfriend allegedly told carey back in december that the president was using electronic surveillance to monitor her home to keep her city of stamford, connecticut, in lockdown. on thursday morning the dental hygienist packed a bag of
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clothing and stramed their daughter in the back seat of their black infiniti and drove 300 miles to washington, d.c., according to toll records and cell towers. carey appeared eager to get to the white house. pulling up to a checkpoint, exchanging harsh words and clipping a security officer with her car as she peeled away. she had worked for dentist brian evans before being let go. >> we hired her. we thought she was a great employee while she was here. she had an accident, fell, and had a head injury. she found out she was pregnant during that time that she was hospitalized. >> reporter: in december of 2012, carey's boyfriend called police. worried the kowp's 4-month-old daughter was in danger because of what he described as carey's delusional behavior and postpartum depression. investigators found discharge papers which list two prescription medications to treat depression as well as symptoms of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. carey's sister told cnn carey suffered a momentary breakdown
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requiring medication and counseling following her daughter's birth. it appears carey also left an envelope addressed to her boyfriend, but instead of a letter inside, there was a sugary substance which was removed by a hazmat team and taken for testing. carey's daughter was unharmed during the shooting. she was placed in foster care pending permanent arrangements. deborah feyerick, cnn, new york. >> all right, our thanks to deborah, of course. let me bring in now criminal defense attorney holly hughes, holly, it's very sad that this had to happen, obviously. it appears -- appears -- that she had some issues. u.s. capitol is the most secure places on earth, there was a lot of talk about carey used her car as a deadly weapon. what does that mean? >> well, basically if you take a moving vehicle and strike somebody with it, don, you can be charged with aggravated assault. you can be charged with felony murder because you committed an assault upon a person with that
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vehicle. so, basically what those police officers were saying were if we didn't jump out of the way of the vehicle in time, we could be dead. she did clip one officer. she clipped a secret service agent as well. and they're not releasing information on him. but we know the other officer is probably going to be fine. so, it is a tragedy that this young woman's life had to be taken, but, you know, we need to be grateful that her child and nobody else was injured. >> absolutely. her sister spoke on "ac360" last night. listen. >> i want people to just understand that miriam, she was a young 34-year-old vibrant woman. and she had a lot of dreams and aspirations. she was fun. she was loving. she was very nurturing to her daughter. she was a new mom. and she was excited about that. she always talked about teaching. her field was dental hygienist
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and she wanted to go further and give back in the field. health was everything that she lived for. and she just was a wonderful person. people need to see that she was more than the suspect that was driving the car. >> so, as far as you know, she wasn't bipolar, she wasn't schizophrenic. you believe it was a postpartum depression? >> it was postpartum depression with psychosis, that's what her diagnosis was, and she worked very closely with her doctor to taper off the medication and get the counseling she needed so they could deal with the diagnosis. >> holly, does the family have any legal recourse here to sue? >> it would be very difficult because it sounded like based on what her sister was saying that the doctor was very attentive, very actively involved, tried very hard to get her on the right medications and then to wean her off. you know, she said tapering off, so i don't really see where there's going to be liability unless they can prove somehow there was gross negligence and
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then you're looking at a civil suit, don, but no criminal charges here. >> what about police? that's what i meant. does she have any resource against the police? can the family sue police? >> it would be an uphill battle because the police officers acted appropriately. if somebody is driving a moving vehicle at you at those speeds, you don't know if it's rigged with explosives, don, remember you can bring a vehicle in loaded, we saw it in oklahoma city, tragically and when she tried to get at the white house and that didn't work, she clipped, you know, the secret service and the police when she was driving away. >> yeah. >> she was erratic. they had no idea. no, i think the police acted in good faith and appropriately. let's look at it this way, if there had been a bomb in that car and they didn't disarm or disable that driver -- >> right. >> -- then we'd be criticizing them for that as well. >> for that. and if they'd blown up the car by shooting at the car. >> exactly. >> a capitol police officer e-mailed me yesterday explaining and saying that the car was a 1,400-pound weapon so they did
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then a day or two later as people were talking about this, i heard some of them saying, why are we all so angry here? so, i brought in psychologist wendy walsh, and i went through a couple of stories from the past few weeks, past few months, and i asked her, why are we all so angry? >> there's a lot of tension in america right now. i think americans are hurting at the macrolevel, you know, more and more concentration of wealth is in a tinier portion of america. the average annual wage of people has not moved up. so, that looked to me like a clash of the haves and the have-nots, a big range rover, the biker guys, although the harleys are pretty expensive now-addno nowadays and we are seeing more clashes than we have seen in a very long time. >> you think that, that ang -- that's responsible for the an r anger? >> at the microlevel when you have macro things. many people believe we're not in
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a modern free capitalist society anymore, we have neo-feudalism and as a result even those that had hope maybe voting for the obama administration and then they saw it's just gridlock, it system hasn't changed and the special interests get their needs met first, so the average joe is having a tough time and it's frustrating. >> and then we have the incident with the ballplayer from australia in oklahoma and the three young men that are accused of killing him. where does that anger have to do with? >> you can love to say we've gotten more loose and casual and we're not teaching morals to children and there are many factors and some people might argue that taking religion out of the schools has created this vacuum where we're not doing any moral teaching. we haven't replaced it with something else to do moral teaching, but i'm a big believer in that zero to 5, birth to age 5 is where you form personality, where you teach compassion, where you teach empathy. and if parents are busy
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struggling and both having to work, who's there teaching these kids? >> so, the anger comes from age 1 to 5, you believe? >> i think empathy is taught. i think morals are taught. and i think it has to happen in the early -- when you're developing your personality. >> it is interesting to me because just recently i had an incident with some kids in my particular neighborhood and my doorman and we were shocked and even the -- >> the lack of respect. >> yes. and the family, the dad came back, and yelled at us for telling his kid not to do something. >> exactly. the kids have become just a weird accessory of the narcissistic adult now, you've hurt the kid, and therefore you've hurt the adult. >> you mentioned video games. you mentioned grand theft auto, or grand theft auto five, whatever the late evident iteration, druggings and beatings. >> how can people not become desensitized by seeing that? i was shocked because i don't play video games, i saw a clip, beating a woman and blood coming out of her body.
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as a woman that disturbed me so much. >> you can't stop video game makers from making money and putting it out there. that's what america is about. >> really? you can't regulate capitalism? i'm sorry, when did we make that rule? it's okay for a company to come to our biology and say we'll get you addicted to fat, alcohol, cigarettes, and video games and we don't want the government to get involved even though you have a biological predisposition to get addicted. and certain stores are experimenting with playing certain music to make you buy more. >> and smells as well. >> and smells as well. >> let's talk about the government, because we saw a whole lot of people in congress and the house and the senate screaming, yelling on the floor of the house, yelling on the floor of the senate. even in an interview saying how dare you! those people are core people, why would they be so upset? the >> well, because they have special interest groups they have to answer to. >> that's why they are so upset by this? >> do you think want us to be more well and have better health care and be well taken care of? they want the status quo because
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it's working well for them. >> and that's why the american people are as you said -- >> they're rising up! >> they are rising up and they may be more angry because they think the wealth is pretty much in one spot. >> it is. it is. there's lots of research out to show that 40% of our country's wealth lies in the hands of only 1% of the population while the average annual salary has continued to go down for the average joe. so, eventually you'll see the lower classes rise up in anger and here's how we see it in these tiny little outbursts of anger. >> that's where it starts. >> that's where it starts. >> of course, that was psychologist wendy walsh's take on this. do you agree? why do you think people are so angry right now? send me a note on twitte twitter @donlemoncnn on twitter and we'll try to get some of your spoges been your responses later on in this show. are you ready for milk prices to skyrocket? they just might. do you know why? there you go. yep, right there. that's why. we'll explain, next.
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up to 400,000 furloughed workers will return next week. defense secretary chuck haguing said the law allows the defense department to eliminate furloughs for civilian workers who contribute to the morale, the well-being, and the readiness of service members. earlier, the house unanimously passed a bill to give back pay to all furloughed employees, government employees. the agreement ended there. political head butted started right after the vote and so far no shutdown solution on the horizon. no shutdown solution on the horizon. as if you needed another reason to hate the government shutdown. here's one more for you right now. if it goes on, milk prices will go way, way, way up. cnn's christine romans tells us just how high they will go. >> hi, don. does the government shutdown
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mean higher grocery bills? if congress doesn't act, it will. the farm bill expired on monday and with it subsidies for dairy farmers. consumers and farmers are worried higher milk prices will follow. the senate and the house before they shut down the government, they were still negotiating. come january 1, the country automatically, though, reverts to a 1949 law that would set the floor for milk twice as expensive as it is now. we called the ag committees for a progress report. closed due to shutdown. if congress does nothing, experts say milk prices will spike to eight bucks a gallon. right now the national average for a gallon of milk is $3.45 an almost $5 spike would hurt, no question. don? >> thank you very much for that, christine romans. the black market online. hard drugs, assault weapons. you might even be able to hire a hit man. all at a click of a mouse. that's next. [ female announcer ] we lowered her fever.
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silk road, one fbi caagent calls it the most sophisticated market on the internet today. the fbi has now shut down silk road. anyone who knew how to get to the site along with countless others was only a couple of mouse clicks away from drugs, fake driver's licenses, passports, assault weapons, and contact information reportedly for contract killers. wow. all of this delivered by u.s. mail. the site is now offline, but as
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our lorie siegel tells us, the shuttering of silk road is not the end of the road for illegal, online dealing. >> reporter: pick up mail from the post office, it's not your typical package. inside? drugs. >> going to be meth. >> reporter: welcome to the growing dark side of the internet. in a couple of clicks, drugs on your doorstep. peter, whose name has been changed, asked us to obscure his identity. >> it's basically powdered mushrooms and you can just go here and you say, hey, i want to buy 250 milligrams of it and you click the buy now thing, like any other place you are buying something online, you end up with a shopping cart and you click the mouse. >> reporter: and peter's familiar with the site. >> things i've bought are generally psychedelics, namely lsd because that's the hardest
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one to find on the street. >> reporter: users sign on an anonymous network where the only payment accepted is bitcoin a virtual currency worth real money. the idea is it's just not traceable. >> it's not traceable if you do it correctly, but if do it like buying bitcoins on the street or things like that, it becomes untraceable. >> reporter: silk road specialized in drugs, but as peter shows us, the internet gets even darker. there are other sites that haven't been shut down. here's one. >> the same kind of thing, there's a drug category and you can buy different things if you are interested in looking for lsd, you go and you select the lsd thing. apparently on this site you can literally buy guns. ak-47. ar-15. >> reporter: we were also shown screen shots of sites advertising hit men. they promised to dill for bitcoin compensation. peter's never given that a test drive. he's only used it is to buy
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drugs, often on silk road. now that it's gone, you bummed >> i mean, yeah. >> reporter: it's not necessarily an end game. >> they killed a server. they didn't take down the technology that's used to make this happen. >> reporter: a game of whack a mole in the dark corners of the web. what do you think the outcome will be of silk road being taken over by the government, being taken down? >> i think people are going to be pretty fearful of using those kinds of services for a while. i imagine there will be discussions on what happened, what went wrong, how to improve on it, and later on newer versions that have improved in some way will pop up and regain the trust that's probably dissipating right now. >> wow. lorie siegel's here. are they able to go on so long, how was the fbi not able to find it and shut it down until now? >> it's complicated. they knew about it, and a lot of them were undercover on the tor
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network. silk road is hosted on something called or was hosted on the tor network and it's a way of signing into the internet and it's completely encrypted,ny of your internet traffic you're doing it's very, very difficult to trace. it hides your ip address and changes it to something completely different, so it's very hard to trace. also, don, you have to add to it that people are paying with bitcoin that is virtual currency that doesn't go through a banking institution and it adds a level of anonymity and it's very difficult for them to shut down. >> in your story you were reporting that people were able to buy drugs through this sort of thing? >> they joke that this is the ebay for drugs. you can click through just about any drug you can possibly think of, all it takes as a click and as you see we walked with our guy peter and you saw that he opened the mail that he got at the post office and they don't realize they are essentially being drug dealers and it's right in there. and also rifles -- >> and also, i was going to say,
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weapons, assault wechapons. >> we didn't click buy, but peter said you don't buy from someone who doesn't have a review, very much kind of like ebay, so it looks very legitimate, obviously we can't test it. >> how do you know the hit man thing, how do you know if that's legitimate? because it's pretty scary. >> it's terrifying. if you look at what happened to the guy taken down with silk road, they actually have conversations where he said he had hired hit man using bitcoin, so this isn't something we can independently confirm, but what it does show us is that the internet and using the tor network to access a lot of these different sites, it's this dark place and people are doing everything from buying illegal drugs to selling pornography and it's a place that the feds have -- they have to get very serious about cracking down. >> but it's because of the way that it takes your ip address, because most people can be found through their ip address and they can get their entire history, but this scrambles it, so it makes it very difficult to find. >> completely. it was meant for people to communicate safely, for journalists to protect their sources but bad actors always getting involved.
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>> let me ask you this, people who have used it, can the fbi now go back and unscramble? can they figure out? are they going to get into some sort of trouble? >> i asked this guy because we went to go look at silk road and it was shut down and he said, you know, this is the least of their concerns, you know, they're going to be looking at the much wider marketplace. and if the fbi has shut down silk road, but many, many other sites are going to be available out there. i mean, this is -- as you heard in our piece, they shut down one part of a huge technology server essentially. as long as the technology is there, it will be difficult to crack down. >> where there is a will, there is way. great story. appreciate that. good to see you as well. all right, they were trapped in their car for more than 20 hours in south dakota. we're going to talk with one member of a group and see how they're doing right now. that's next. just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked him up. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's.
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sxz whiteout conditions, four feet of snow and howling winds. it's what a couple and their friends survived in south dakota. these are the pictures. jacob, his wife and two friends were heading from north dakota to denver yesterday when a snowstorm swept over the road. they were stranded in their suv for 20 hours. jacob joins me via skype. where are you now and how is everybody? >> right now, we are doing fabulous. a couple hours ago, we weren't sure what we were going to be doing, if we were spending another night in the car. we were conserving everything. this morning, all four of us shared an apple. that was what our food was going to be for the next few hours or whatever. right now, we are doing well, thanks for asking. >> you are appreciating the
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little things, aren't you? >> i am, for sure. we just got to the hotel. at the hotel, there's heat. i can feel my core body temperature rising rapidly, even as we speak. >> yeah. so, how did you get stuck? >> um, well, we, um, we were driving through. we knew there was a snowstorm. we are based in denver at the moment. we knew there was a snowstorm but didn't think -- it's been a busy workweek. we didn't think much of it. there was definitely snow, but only three or four inches of slush until pretty suddenly, it hit. all of a sudden, there was multiple feet of snow. both all-wheel drive vehicles we had got stuck. >> how did you all make it until help arrived? explain what happened? >> initially, we tried to find other ways to dig out the tires,
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that kind of thing. when that didn't work, we basically immediately decided to conserve energy, focus getting warm. we had a lot of luggage with uls. we were able to take our clothes and put them against one side of the suv we were in against the wall that the snow was aiming for to try to get a little -- to try to create more insulation through the vehicle. then we watched a few movies on netflix, which doesn't sound like much. it was a huge thing to hear the outside world. as the night went on -- as the night went on, it would be more and more time, unfortunately, where we were trying to figure out does the car need to be off? should we restart the car? should we huddle together further and try to figure out how to survive. by the time morning arrived, only one of our car doors
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actually opened. the rest were snowed in or iced in. that was a weird thing. i would have to get out and go around the car to dig out the tail pipe to make sure we wouldn't get the fumes from the exhaust. when i did that, i came back to the car. this was about 4:00 this morning and the snow covered up the door handle and iced up the door handle. i had a bit of a panic moment where i tried to get back into the car, but couldn't. i started to knock the ice off the door handle and thankfully, thankfully, the door hadn't closed because there was snow on the actual hinge. i was able to knock it enough and grab the edge of the door and pry it open. >> were you worried you and your family wouldn't make it? people lose their lives in conditions like this. >> initially, yes, forsure. as time went on, i was able to
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figure out -- as time went on, we figured out different things to do. we had back up plan after back up plan after back up plan. my buddy lee was instrumental in making sure we were using the right amount of food. my wife packed well for the trip. that helped out well, too. >> glad you are okay, jacob. thank you. we appreciate you coming on cnn. get warm. >> i appreciate it. take care. >> thanks. snow wasn't the only crazy weather to hit the midwest. 18 tornadoes hit three states. next, a nebraska town that survived a tornado with winds up to 200 miles per hour. ) just fe. that's right. (son) ok. feather it out. (dad) all right. that's ok. (dad) put it in second, put it in second. (dad) slow it down. put the clutch in, break it, break it. (dad) just like i showed you. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car! (dad) he's not gonna wreck the car. (dad) no fighting in the road, please. (dad) put your blinker on. (son) you didn't even give me a chance! (dad) ok. (mom vo) we got the new subaru because nothing could break our old one.
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